I recall a statement in the literature about the possibility that non-members might behave poorly and cause an embarrassment at the reception.
I don't have access to this citation so I'm not sure if it says that but it may be of help: w97 4/15 25.
okay team,.
some family friends who are engaged are getting some flack around the particulars of their wedding ceremony (surprise!
"strain out the gnat, gulp down the camel", and all that).
I recall a statement in the literature about the possibility that non-members might behave poorly and cause an embarrassment at the reception.
I don't have access to this citation so I'm not sure if it says that but it may be of help: w97 4/15 25.
jesus taught a surviving generation, a group inhering everlasting life, an escape route to avoid a global disaster worse than the flood, a generation that "will not pass away--" an infinite generation.
wt teaches a generation that dies, ends, passes away, at the first sign of real trouble, the great tribulation.. what do you believe about this wt assertion?
(apart from that there is no talking snake, it is all irrelevant).
They want to give the illusion of explaining something that can't be explained. Everyone pretends that it's meaningful in the same way as those who saw the naked emperor pretended he was dressed.
A smart twelve year old could have come out with a better rationalization than the "overlapping generation". I have one but I do not want to give them any ideas if they're lurking here.
with these new disasters going on around the world, i would imagine that the jw's are going ape shit with the thought of death and destruction right around the corner.
i was smart enough to leave this cult after 1975 came and went with a whimper.
i was in my teens at the time and i vividly remember to this day the excitement all the witlesses had with the knowledge that '75 was going to be the year of armageddon!!!
Nevuela: "Wow, six years and not one single comment?"
You just made a comment. Oops! Now it's 2 comments.
i did not see a newbs thread to introduce myself, so my apologies if i'm in the wrong place.
i was a 3rd generation born in witness for 30 years until i was disfellowshipped back in 2007 for making a mistake.
my entire life up until that point was based on and circled around the society, and even though at first i really enjoyed my freedom (i still do), the fact is that i'm still struggling with cognitive dissonance, resentment, and loneliness.. i miss my family all the time.
Welcome Nina!
I have tried to go back to the organization several times. The problem is that when you read as much as I do, you invariably come across things that make you THINK, and then you see the the organization for what it really is.
I highly suggest you read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz, a former member of the Governing Body (It's available free in pdf). You'll see that, no matter how bad things are as you see them now, they're always worse when you look more closely.
Don't bother returning to the organization, they don't deserve someone as honest as you.
Unfortunately he has been a little possessive and has caused me to lose some of the friends I did make when I left.
Is he also Hispanic? They're naturally inclined towards that.
But something is still missing. I don't even feel like I can have a personal connection with god because if Jehovah wants "his people" to behave the way they do, then I don't want to know or love Jehovah. In fact, I think he's a bit of an asshole.
That "missing" thing is the realization that there's no such thing as such a god.
Keep in touch.
this is just mesmerizing.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq9gs-5lrkc.
recently attended a special assembly day.. guest speaker was thomas chicky, a member of the us branch committee and the head of the us ldc (which has replaced the rbcs).. the last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour.
it was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo.
he appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.. he commented on the new wt complex in fishkill ny.. then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).. the following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:.
Well put JW GoneBad.
hello fellow apostates!
my first post and a long time lurker here.
i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".
Funchback,
Who plagiarized who?
Sorry I wasn't more clear; it was the Witchtower that plagiarized Johnny Walker.
hello fellow apostates!
my first post and a long time lurker here.
i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".
Welcome to the forum towerwatcher!
Personally, I would not bother with what will be seen by non-witnesses a private joke. Witnesses probably won't care as well.
hello fellow apostates!
my first post and a long time lurker here.
i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".
Funchback, They had a similar issue with a whiskey ad in 1982 that was plagiarized.
wolves use their "loyalty" questions to trap others - "do you believe we're living in the last days/this is god's organization/faithful slave?
" - yet resolutely avoid discussing topics which put their org in a bad light, my "loyalty" question to them would be - "do you accept literature truth over bible truth?
" they will either run or be forced to ask for examples of alleged differences.any other suggestions for "loyalty" questions?.
A Believer,
I fully believe we are living in the last days. Can't wait until all is fixed.
Whatever happens in the future, no matter how bad it is, will not be like the false prophecies your religion teaches. You will die from old age (unless you're old already) without seeing:
Of course, all of the above are subject to eternal revision. You'll be waiting forever.